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SEASON 2, EPISODE 8: Reimagining the creative process with artists and life partners María Magdalena Campos-Pons and Kamaal Malak.

Kamaal Malak and María Magdalena Campos-Pons join Provost C. Cybele Raver on the Quantum Potential podcast. (Vanderbilt University)

When a highly esteemed painter, sculptor and performance artist collaborates in work and life with an award-winning musician, music producer and researcher, the end result is a completely reimagined and beautiful creative process. In this episode of the Quantum Potential podcast, hear from two extraordinary artists and collaborators, María Magdalena Campos-Pons, MacArthur Fellow and Cornelius Vanderbilt Chair of Fine Arts, and her creative partner and husband, Kamaal Malak, artist-in-residence of culture, advocacy and leadership and a founding member of the award–winning group Arrested Development.

In this episode, Provost C. Cybele Raver talks with

KaMag—Kamaal Malak and María Magdalena Campos-Pons led a parade of artists in a poetry caravan at Venice Biennale 2026 wearing a robe created by students in the engineering Wearable Product Design class. (Olivia Forrester)

this creative power couple, who perform as KaMag and create immersive experiences that blend visual art, music, improvisation and love into something unique. They share about their work showcased at the Venice Biennale—one of the world’s premier international art exhibitions—where they also served as artistic directors and curators of Vanderbilt University’s inaugural presentation. They also talk about their dreams connected to Vanderbilt University–San Francisco, one of Vanderbilt’s growth initiative campuses.

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